DS9 Stories/News: Of Trek and War (1)

Source: http://www.goth.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14138&f=20

This is based on an idea from DarklyInclined, who was wondering how I might rate the rather protracted Dominion War featured in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine versus the one-season Xindi conflict (a subset of the much larger Temporal Cold War) as shown in Star Trek: Enterprise. I thought I’d also open the topic up to other wars in Trek, since those two weren’t quite the only wars shown in all of the series.

This will be a lengthy post. I’ve been working on it for a while now. I tend to write essays instead of simple replies; apologies in advance. Non-Trekkies who don’t really give a shit might want to head for another thread. For those Trekkies not well-versed in the subject matter, I will include links to pertinent data where applicable. Those who do choose read this, please bear with me.

You could make it more fun by taking a shot of your favorite alcoholic beverage anytime I bash Rick Berman & Brannon Braga (two of Trek’s longtime writers/producers, both of whom were blamed for Star Trek’s demise and the early cancellation of Enterprise, if not the near-total downfall of UPN itself) or anytime I mention Ronald D. Moore and Ira Steven Behr (two longtime Trek scribes who later moved on to Battlestar Galactica on SyFy) in a positive light. You’ll be happily plastered by post’s end.

Which did you think was done best: the Dominion War from DS9 or the Xindi conflict from Enterprise (or a different conflict featured in one of the other series, like the Klingon/Federation Cold War from TOS or the brief war against the Klingons in DS9 that served as a prelude to the Dominion War)?

Or, for a much more broad, open-ended question (if it suits you): do you think Star Trek handles a mature subject such as war well or poorly?

Dominion War

Dominion War

If you really don’t care about my lengthy diatribe on the Dominion War vs. the Xindi conflict (maybe because you didn’t live your entire life in your parents’ basement and you actually did have a social life), just skip past this and post your response already. Otherwise, feel free to keep reading.

Eh..?

Eh..?

I’ll open the discussion with my response…

I think Deep Space Nine handled the Dominion War fairly well. They didn’t just rush into it head-on. The writers gave it a great build-up, slowly tip-toeing into it, mentioning the Dominion here and there throughout Season Two (the Dominion were first mentioned in “Rules of Acquisition“, a Ferengi episode, no less!) before introducing us to their foot soldiers, the genetically-grown Jem’Hadar, in the Season 2 finale. Even after that, the Dominion didn’t quite take center stage yet, opting instead for a Cold War against the Alpha Quadrant powers, during which they covertly started two wars involving the Klingons – a war between the Klingons and the Cardassians (which the Maquis would get involved in) and renewed hostilities between the Klingons and the Federation. After destabilizing the Alpha Quadrant’s major powers, the Dominion finally invaded. Brilliant tactic! By then, the Federation was so shell-shocked from having to deal with wars on all borders (save the Romulan Neutral Zone) that they barely had the resources to fight the Dominion, a nigh-unstoppable force compared to the Federation.

Jem'Hadar

Jem’Hadar

The Dominion seemed militarily superior in all respects: non-stop construction of warships while the Federation was still trying to convert aging exploration vessels into battleships; they could grow Jem’Hadar at an exponential rate (and even tailor-make them for warfare in that part of the galaxy) while Starfleet couldn’t recruit new officers fast enough; the Dominion were united while Starfleet was divided between the pacifists and the war-mongers (usually represented by a shadowy “rogue” group of Starfleet Intelligence called Section 31, a sort of Starfleet “Men in Black” that utilized very dirty tactics like assassinations, cover-ups and even genocide to preserve the Federation; this was the series’ attempt at exploring a darker side of Starfleet that I, for one, appreciated). Good mix of drama, tension and action all around, plus it was an interesting examination of the Federation through darker lenses than we’re used to.

Section 31

Section 31

While Deep Space Nine’s executive producer, Rick Berman (Roddenberry’s hand-picked successor), wanted the Dominion War to last only three or four episodes tops, DS9′s lead writers – Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D. Moore (themselves chosen by Berman for their outstanding work on The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, both of whom would later helm the Battlestar Galactica reboot and create its prequel series Caprica) – conned him into allowing the Dominion War to play out until its “natural” end, which came during the final episode of the series. Say what you will about the Dominion War as a storyline and how it diverges from Roddenberry’s utopian vision of the future or about Deep Space Nine as a series, I think the Dominion War worked successfully (mostly), given its purpose as a method of deconstructing Roddenberry’s notions of the Federation as a utopian society. Ira Steven Behr re-imagined Deep Space Nine as a darker, grittier version of Roddenberry’s vision, and given how the series was written before that (set aboard a Cardassian space station by Michael Pillar – the brain behind some of the best TNG episodes ever, including “The Best of Both Worlds” – who imagined the series as a “frontier town in space” filled with broken individuals, former terrorist “freedom fighters”, orphaned aliens and unscrupulous bartender/merchants), the series worked well as such. The Dominion War, while I admit it was rather protracted (and ultimately weakened the hell out of Season 7, when the writers had to figure out a quick way to end the war in only one season after building the story arc to be a lengthy epic), worked overall as the ultimate test of Roddenberry’s dream.

When such a dream – the notion of humankind striving to better itself through peace and cooperation – is threatened by outside forces, what will humanity endure to protect it? The approach to this was very realistic, from the major portions of the story (“Operation Return“, the re-taking of DS9 after it was taken over by the Dominion) to the humdrum day-to-day stuff (Sisko’s grim ritual of posting casualty reports from the war every Friday). Ultimately, the war took a bitter toll on everyone involved, especially Captain Sisko; he would later commit acts that many Trek fans consider cardinal sins against Roddenberry’s lofty ideals – specifically helping a former Cardassian spy murder a Romulan senator in cold blood and blame the Dominion for it in the masterpiece episode “In the Pale Moonlight” – just to bring a quicker resolution to the war by bringing the Romulans into it. By the series’ end, the Federation is saved, and all the major goals of the series – bringing an end to the Cardassian threat and putting Bajor on the fast-track to membership in the Federation – have been met, along with the added bonus of creating a tentative peace between the Federation, the Klingons and the Romulans. Additionally, Ira Steven Behr was able to inject a bit of Judaism into the story through the Bajorans and their Emissary (messiah figure), Benjamin Sisko, whose story arc Behr based loosely on Moses.

DS9 Stories/News: DEEPSPACE NINE QUOTES

Source: http://www.spacebabyuk.com/QUOTES/Deepspacenine.html

This is probably the first and last time you will ever hear a Klingon mention the problem of their appearance during Kirk’s five year mission

We do not discuss it with outsiders

Worf to Bashir on twenty-third-century Klingons appearance

DS9 / Trials and Tribble-ations

Even in the darkest moments, you can always find something that’ll make you smile

Captain Benjamin Sisko’s Log
DS9 / In the Cards

Every choice we make has a consequence…

Commander Benjamin Sisko to Wormhole Alien
DS9 / Emissary

Too many people dream of places they’ll never go, wish for things they’ll never have…instead of paying adequate attention to their real lives…

Odo to Quark
DS9 / If Wishes Were Horses

…..There’s more to life than profit

Lieutenant Jadzia Dax to Pel
DS9 /Rules of Acquisition

The old Klingon ways are passing. There was a time when I was a young man; the mere mention of the Klingon Empire made worlds tremble. Now, our warriors are opening restaurants and serving racht to the grandchildren of men I slaughtered in battle. Things are not what they used to be. Not even a blood oath

Kang to Dax
DS9 / Blood Oath

But it’s not going to be the same without you. When I look at a gas nebula, all I see is a cloud of dust, but seeing the universe through your eyes, I was able to experience…wonder. I’m going to miss that

Q to Vash, on Vash’s refusal to continue travelling with him
DS9 / ‘Q Less’

The one good thing about going away…is coming home

Keiko O’Brien to Chief Miles O’Brien
DS9 / Accession

Worf? My love…? Let me make this very clear –I do not want to spend my honeymoon climbing, hiking, sweating, bleeding, or suffering in any way

Dax to Worf
DS9 / Change of Heart

Time, like latinum, is a highly limited commodity

Brunt to Quark
DS9 / The Bar Association

Everything’s tidy when someone else is doing the cleaning

Sisko to Garak
DS9 / Things Past

You win some, you lose some
You always had problems with the ‘lose some’ part of that

Sisko and Dax
DS9 / For the Uniform

You’re always telling me that space is big. That it’s an endless frontier, filled with infinite wonders
It’s true
Well if that’s the case, you would think it would be more than enough room to allow people to leave each other alone
It just doesn’t work that way. It should. But it doesn’t

Joseph Sisko and Benjamin Sisko
DS9 / Far Beyond the Stars

Jake, the only time you should be in bed is if you’re sleeping, dying, or making love to a beautiful woman. I’m not tired, I’m not dying, and the truth is, I’m too old for beautiful women, so I might as well be here

Joseph Sisko to Jake Sisko
DS9 / Homefront

A dead man can’t learn from his mistakes

Sisko to Omet’iklan
DS9 / To the Death

A man with a death wish is a danger not only to himself, but to the rest of his team

Odo to Worf
DS9 / Sons of Mogh

I’ve found that nothing keeps me alert quite like a healthy fear of death

Sisko to Weyoun
DS9 / To the Death

One mans villain is another man’s hero, captain

Dukat to Sisko
DS9 / By Inferno’s light

Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon Warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth

Worf to Kira, on Klingon theology
DS9 / Homefront

Blood, Pain, Sacrifice, Anguish, and Death
Sounds like marriage all right

Worf and Bashir, on the upcoming Klingon pre-wedding rituals
DS9 / You Are Cordially Invited…

Truth is not always easy to recognize

Bareil to Kira
DS9 / The Collaborator

Stupidity is no excuse

Zek to Quark, on the law
DS9 / Rules of Acquisition

Nothing justifies genocide

Kira to Marritza
DS9 / Duet

The best way to survive a knife fight is to never get in one

Kira to Ziyal
DS9 / Return to Grace

One ship against an entire fleet…that’s a helluva plan B

Dax to Sisko
DS9 / The Sacrifice of Angels

I told Muniz he was going to make it.
That’s what a captain’s supposed to say

Sisko and Dax, on the loss of a crewmember
DS9 / The Ship

There is nothing honourable about killing those who cannot defend themselves

Martok and Worf
DS9 / Rules of Engagement

Well, after six years in a place like this, you either learn to laugh…or you go insane. I prefer to laugh

Ee’Char to O’Brien, on incarceration
DS9 / Hard Time

Just because we don’t understand a life form doesn’t mean we can destroy it

Odo to Kira
DS9 / Playing God

It’s amazing how some people will judge you based on nothing more than your job

Mardah to Sisko
DS9 / The Abandoned

Paranoid is what they call people who imagine threat’s against their life. I have threats against my life

Garak to Quark
DS9 / For the Cause

 

The sound of children playing. What could be more beautiful…?

Benjamin Sisko to Jennifer Sisko
DS9 / Emissary

Going through my own adolescence was difficult enough. Surviving my son’s is going to take a miracle

Sisko to Dax
DS9 / The Nagus

It’s always nice to have someone around to help change the diapers

Sisko to Odo
DS9 / The Begotten

I am a Klingon warrior and a Starfleet officer. I have piloted star ships though dominion minefields, I have stood in battle against Kelvans twice my size, I courted and won the heart of the Magnificent Jadzia Dax. If I can do these things…I can make this child go to sleep

Worf to Dax, on babysitting Kirayoshi
DS9 / Times Orphan

It takes a lot of courage to admit you’re wrong

Kira to Winn
DS9 / Rapture

And ‘A Ferengi without profit…
…is no Ferengi at all’”

Sisko and Nog, the Eighteenth Rule of Acquisition
DS9 / Heart of Stone

The Tenth Rule of Acquisition is ‘Greed is Eternal’”

Quark to Rom
DS9 / Family Business

Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer

Zek to Quark, the Two Hundred Eighth rule of Acquisition
DS9 / Ferengi Love Songs

Poisoning the customers is bad for business

Quark to Damar
DS9 / The Magnificent Ferengi

Another glorious chapter of Klingon history. Tell me, do they still sing songs of the Great Tribble Hunt?

Odo to Worf
DS9 / Trials and Tribble-ations

He put a bomb in a tribble?

Sisko to Dax, on Darvin’s revenge against Kirk
DS9 / Trials and Tribble-ations

Constable —why are you talking to your beverage?
It’s not a beverage, it’s a changeling

Worf and Odo, on the changeling baby
DS9 / The Begotten

He’s not sure he’s coming back
What makes you say that?
His baseball. He took it with him

Kira and Odo, on Sisko
DS9 / Tears of the Prophets

Of course it’s your fault. Everything that goes wrong here is your fault. It says so in your contract

Quark to Rom, on the replicator failure
DS9 / Heart of Stone

You mean your people are going to invade…Cleveland?

Captain Wainwright to Nog
DS9 / Little Green Men

Stay back, or I’ll …disintegrate this hostage
With your finger?
With my death ray
Looks a lot like a finger to me

Quark and Denning
DS9 / Little Green Men

This is the eighth run-through and you haven’t been able to hit a single Jem’Hadar. And you shot Moogie
I saw we weren’t going to rescue her—so I put her out of her misery

Nog and Leck, on practicing for a rescue operation

DS9 / The Magnificent Ferengi

I read a lot of science fiction
Bless you, my child
The world needs more people like you

Darlene, Herbert, and Kay
DS9 / Far Beyond the Stars

What does fun have to do with Major Kira?

Odo and Vic
DS9 / His Way